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Friday, June 08, 2012

The Improbable, the Impossible and the Inexplicable.

Dog Poet Transmitting.......

May your noses always be cold and wet.

(I started an Origami a couple of days ago but, for whatever my reasons were, I didn't complete it or put it up. We'll try a different approach today and probably be more successful..)

I don't know exactly how to put it; should I say there is a lot of bad energy swirling around? Is it that or just a lot of chaos and change that isn't entirely focused or directed? It has to be focused and directed from somewhere but I'm not in the loop with all of that. All I know is what I personally experience and what I hear about. It's a time of rough winds and rough waters. It's a time of confusion and great uncertainty. Those who are the bad guys, or masquerading as good guys, who are also bad guys and those who could be anything, since it's so hard to tell a lot of the time, have been at it and are at it all over the world. I don't want to give too much attention and commentary to them. They've been at it, in one form or another, for a very long time. It doesn't seem fruitful to me to keep bringing it up. I did notice this and further down the page you see a head-shot of The David Rocke himself, as a link to some other horrific thing he's engaged in. The point though... if a picture is worth a thousand words then this one qualifies as a guaranteed collective of invective and an offense against the sense employed to perceive it.

To me, it seems like the main concern that I have, maybe this applies to many others, is to not get dragged down into the darker realms, simply because of the intensity of the pressure. That's no easy task. It requires a discipline of both heart and mind that is not easy to maintain at the level of consistency that is required. You almost need some kind of robo-attribute that will operate independent of your occasionally flagging attention and determination.

The weather here has been reflecting the general mental and emotional climate that I am all too hyper-aware of. It's been gray and often rainy as well. Occasionally the sun comes out for part of a day or a few hours and then just goes back behind the clouds. It's like that now, though I hear tomorrow will be different. There's always tomorrow, isn't there? Until the day when there isn't.

I don't know what I thought was going to happen over the course of this last dreadful decade. I guess I mostly listened to all of those experts and seers that seemed so plugged in and had degrees for this or that and were important enough or persistent enough to get the space on one airwave or another, be it crass media or the, only less questionable, alternative mediums, be it text or voice or face-time. I sure did hear a lot of projections and opinions and none of them have really amounted to much. I'm guessing in their own minds they have had some success because these will be the things that they point to, in place of all the other things that were, more or less, off the wall.

I have finally arrived at the place where I don't believe anything I hear, unless it comes out of some several thousand year old tradition, that talks in a general way, about the calamities and misfortunes that descend on a world, that is far too interested in material culture and indifferent to spiritual things, unless they provide the freedom and justification to wallow in some version of material culture that agrees with temporally approved, scriptural guidelines.

The world of the moment, the ground and turf over which I walk, metaphorically speaking, might as well be made out of molasses. Then again, there is also a literal aspect to that and it doesn't all involve walking.

When you first start to encounter persistent opposition to your efforts, in any particular direction, there are a lot of explanations and excuses you can come up with. You don't want to be immediately paranoid or irrational. You want to make allowances for things you may not be aware of but which you are responsible for. You want to allow for the possibility that it has something to do with timing, or environment... maybe even your associates. Anything is possible in that regard. However, once you've been through the same thing from a great many angles and you still don't have any answers and it continues to be strange, weird and inexplicable and yet, doesn't apply to other things, which go right on happening, without anywhere near the effort or opposition, you kind of have to wonder about a few things. I'm a long time fan of Sherlock's comment, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth”. I might have put it a little differently, like this, Once you eliminate the improbable, whatever remains, no matter how impossible, must be the truth. Still, it's all semantics. People often base life and death arguments on semantics. That's because a very great many people assume they have to be right and, of course, they are not. The only people with any hope of being right at some point are those who make no such assumption. That's what “I don't know” is all about.

Accepting that you don't know, profoundly and viscerally, doesn't mean you don't know anything and are a complete dullard and perpetually ignorant. It means you allow the mind that does know everything to know in your stead and you get the benefit of that. If you go on knowing, certain that you must know, despite the consistent evidence to the contrary, as you go, you'll find out a great many things you don't want to know and which you wish you hadn't had to find out. That is actually one of the main themes of life and you see it everywhere around you, every day, unless you're deeply engaged in it and the percentage of that in relation to the population, is determined by the age in which it is taking place. Some of these things are inflexibly so. You can argue about it and cry over it, rage about it or be indifferent to it but none of that changes it.

Some people early on want to change the world and most people just want something out of it for as long as that is possible and the more that 'they' take out of it, the more it takes out of them. The former find out they can't change the world. They might change some part of it for some period of time or they might find, as is often the case, that their efforts corrupted and compromised them. This is how you go from being a do gooder, to a social reformer, to a monster that kills millions of people. Of course you believe your own press as well.

Many things in life are simple to comprehend and easy to see when they are happening to others. It can be a great deal more difficult when it is happening to you. It can be easy to see the self interest and weakness in others but much more difficult to see in yourself, even when you know this. It's set up like that to make you dependent and reliant, to eventually force you to be and therein lies the triumph and the tragedy, depending on what, or who, you rely on.

Any fool could see that there is a divine being, who is intimately integrated in everything we do and everything that happens to us. What any fool cannot see (and which makes most fools doubt what should be self evident) and which often confounds the wise as well, is that they presume to understand how it works and what is expected of them if they really do want to get some idea about that.

There is no telling what kind of trials and torments you might get put through, no matter how sincere your intentions are, or how devoted you may be or think you are. Any kind of event might come. Any kind of situation might present itself. Any kind of passion or problem may rear its head in a true WTF? manner. That's how it can be, especially in times like these.

Some people think the Avatar has already arrived and some say the Avatar is here and some say the Avatar is coming and there are arguments that can be made for each of those positions of belief and circumstances, in which all three of them might be simultaneously true. That's the hard thing for most people to get their head around; the type of contradictions and conundrums that can and do exist. The thing is, as has been stated here a number of times when the Avatar comes, the Avatar precipitates down through the planes and comes with a broom. The Avatar sweeps out the negative entities on the inner planes. Some of them have been operating there for a long time. They are a major problem, along the lines of 'powers and principalities', as Wesley said; “For our wrestling is not only, not chiefly, against flesh and blood - Weak men, or fleshly appetites. But against principalities, against powers - The mighty princes of all the infernal legions. And great is their power, and that likewise of those legions whom they command. Against the rulers of the world - Perhaps these principalities and powers remain mostly in the citadel of their kingdom of darkness. But there are other evil spirits who range abroad, to whom the provinces of the world are committed. Of the darkness - This is chiefly spiritual darkness. Of this age - Which prevails during the present state of things. Against wicked spirits - Who continually oppose faith, love, holiness, either by force or fraud; and labour to infuse unbelief, pride, idolatry malice, envy, anger, hatred. In heavenly places - Which were once their abode, and which they still aspire to, as far as they are permitted”.

When they get swept off their thrones, there is nowhere for them to go except outward into the physical realm, where they inhabit the bodies of those willing to host them. This is for the purpose of judgment and all of it is for the purpose of demonstration. Some things to think about, as if we didn't have enough of that already.


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73 comments:

Clarity said...

I don't know.
I've been saying it, and will continue to say it.

In the meantime, I'll keep trying to find out, to figure out, as much as I can, and hope that some "knowing" will come from those efforts. Minimally, I hope to know enough to be on the right track. Or maybe I should say that I hope what I think is right will lead me in the right direction.

Your tone, the mood of your writing today, grabbed me as much as your words. As I read, I kept saying to myself that I'll need to really think about all of this. Of course, I needn't have bothered... it was waiting for me right there at the end.

The feeling I've had the last couple of days is that the people here are making a difference. You (All) know so much that I am often overwhelmed, and continually reminded of how much I don't know. (Which I already know, and no reminders are necessary.). Yet, reading the comments shows also how much we don't know. But we are working here to try to figure things out, to be good people, or good souls, and to head towards truth. I think it shows a great amount of love for the world and a dedication towards good, and I can't help but feel as I read here that it all matters in a very positive way.

I love you, Visible, and each of you here supporting the rest of us on our journey to making ourselves and our world a better place.

Love,
~Clarity

Anonymous said...

You could say I've been down and out lately. I've lost my job, I haven't got a home of my own, and I'm still single after 28 years. But, even with all of this I know I am lucky. I have a roof, albeit not mine, over my head. I have plenty of food in my generous belly, and I have family and animals that I love and who love me. I know that while I may not be lucky to be alive in these times, I am lucky to have lived. That is more than some can say. I've laughed, I've lived, and I've smoked some righteous weed. And with all this chaos going on, it's important to look around and ignore the negative, but pay special attention to the things which are right in your life. Having said all that I will say sometimes it's hard to practice what I've preached. Puppy licks go a long way towards helping me remember. Nate

Charles said...

Les. Even in this country I see & experience the quickening. Masses of people seem to be on the verge of extreme violence and some are actually calling for it. The tipping point is near. Politics, power, money, connections, insatiable greed. When is enough, enough? Simple daily misunderstandings spiral quickly out of control, with violent behavior the first port of call. Negative vibes abound. Whether I am becoming more receptive to them as I age through simply tuning in more, I don't know for sure. Something big is indeed not far off. I have "known" it all my years and feel it rushing like river rapids through my ears at times. Please keep up your writings & best wishes. Thank you.

Erica said...

Hi Vis-Grey and wet where I am too-difficult to broadcast loving,positive 'vibes' when outer conditions are so shitty!
Think I'm going to have to get out of this cold,godforsaken country while I still have some remnant of sanity!
Don't know what else to say-I too know nothing and trust nobody-keep on keeping on.

MiaBellezza said...

When the Avatar comes there will be many prepared to emulate the Avatar like mini-avatars ... Or the cosmos will rain down something precious and ignite all the mini-avatars with the mystical qualities necessary? I don't know either how this will play out.

Wear the armor of God and wait.

tmcfall said...

The pressure is relentless and I have friends I haven't seen for a while coming out of the woodwork looking for me in the used to be usual bars...when your friends always "expect" to find you at a certain bar, you know you were on the wrong path. It's really a blessing that I can't afford to drink anymore. I have been forced to focus on what's needed to survive. I have a lot to be grateful for and I try to stay focused on that. Whatever is going to happen and whatever happens to me cannot come soon enough!
Love & Gratitude to All
Tom in Tempe Arizona

Anonymous said...

Nate,
Glad to know I'm not the only one in that boat. I'm a few years, a wife, and kids ahead, but still jobless and financially poor. Like you, I try to focus on the good. There are many blessings in our lives that can be hard to see at the time. I didn't find a wife until I was 28. Maybe this is your year!

Visible,
You often mention that having a quality astrologist is helpful. Got any relatively inexpensive, good ones in mind? I have to make a major decision about opening a business and I've timed a few to many things wrong in life already.

Good luck and have a happy tomorrow (hopefully),
Andy M.

biggee said...

Nicely crafted Origami-subtly and succinctly folded into intrinsic observation.
That's why I come back for more!

Anonymous said...

I look forward to your words at Origami as they are the most comforting.
I Don't know... is right. The more I thought I knew the less I realized I did know.
Kali Yuga is a bitch. The link you provided didn't seem far fetched, in fact it seemed very predictable indeed.
If collectively we do not choose another path soon things can and will get worse.
As always, thanks for your efforts. It is beyond comforting to know there are like minded folks out there still clinging to hope.
Linda

Anonymous said...

for purposes of (most effective) demonstration ... 'it's always the one you didn't see coming.'

any accomplished fool will tell you that attempting to micro-manage in advance the approaching moments is just another lesson in great expectaions.

in any case, i'd just as soon not know exactly what tomorrow will bring. can't even imagine how boring that would be.

and in the world of me, it still seems to be less about what happens than how i respond to that which is presented.

guess that's where the word response-ability fits in.

a luxury position, i suppose, a ready benefit to 'the faith that comes from knowing.'

(it's a non-denominational kind-a-thing.)

Love To Push Those Buttons said...

Dayam yer good. This is off topic, but three weeks ago you implied something major was gonna happen in the next three weeks. Well, in the divided states of america, we seem to be having a nookular melt down or something near the Michigan-Indiana border. The readings like went of the Richter Scale, if ya know what I mean.

I'm keeping track of this and posting new story links as they come up, but here's the latest:

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2012/06/what-is-happening-in-indiana-first-7000.html

This is like awesome, dude. Totally tubular, whatever the Hell that means. What is funny is that this happened at the end of that three week cycle you mentioned. You got some pretty reliable Otherworld contacts there. Mine don't talk to me too much these days. They're there only when I need them. I guess I don't need my hand held or spoon fed at the moment.

Omar said...

Hello Mr Visible
An "avatar" whom I know you are aware of said this of these times ....

"Know verily while the radiant breaketh upon the horizon of eternal holiness, the satanic secrets and deeds done in the gloom of night shall be laid bare and manifest before the peoples of the world"

Anonymous said...

via kathy
Beautifully written Vis.
I've tried hard for a long time to understand, get a hold of, or otherwise grasp the WTF that is my life. Over the last month or so I've reviewed my life and way of living. I'm the queen of dead people, parents, siblings, husbands, just last month my blessed oldest step daughter, which triggered my review. I used to think it was because of me somehow...what an ego.
Maybe it has been to teach me to detach or maybe not.
As for improbable, I've always subscribed to the theory that anything is possible so part of the seeking problem was that everything makes sense and I was overwhelmed.
What I believe, this week (grin) is that we will never know why we're here or why what happens to us happens but in my conscious life review, I've seen that I've done my best to live the hippocratic oath...first do no harm. I've lived it and taught it to the people I've been responsible for.
Things have never appealed to me, people don't impress me and I've known some pretty famous people as have some of you. They are very fragile up close and not to be emulated. Travel is ok but I'm not that kind of restless. I jump on my bike, no longer a harley, and ride the northeast or cross country when time and money permit and that is enough.
My frustration, which I've shared here, and my anger are gone. What a relief. When I seriously smashed my hand yesterday while preparing for a graduation party in my yard, I didn't think why me why now, I just thought oh crap, how will I finish cutting the hedges? That is great growth for me. Not to be "dragged down by the darkness" in a small way, as it were. I was pleased, in the moment and on the way to the hospital, that I didn't feel at all the victim. Again, what a relief. Screw the hedges, if my guests think they are unruly wait til the kids' friends show up!
The All is whatever he/she/it/they want to be and my place is to do the right thing, as I know it, and let The All handle the rest.
All the thinking and ruminating and searching hasn't shown me god but myself instead and as you've been saying for as long as I've been reading here, the answers are within.
Wish me luck on the 100+ guest list for my five graduates!!
I'm reading Manly P. right now, what an eye opener. I thank you Vis for that too.
Richard, who reached out to me at a bad time, and John V. as well as everyone else keep the comments coming!
Peace out

Visible said...

Thank you all and, "Yes" where that applies. Really sorry to hear about your hand Kathy; a really important instrument, though, of course, not the most important.

Andy, there are a number of astrologers that come around here and I don't doubt one reasonable will find you. Failing that there are pretty good computer readouts you can get from the better sites. I'll leave following readers to mention one or two to you. The voice of the inner heart is much more accurate to go by than any astrologer but more difficult to access.

Anonymous said...

That link to the prognostications of the Rockefeller Foundation says it all. Basically, the title should be, "A Few Plans We Have Made to Wipe Out the Masses". Un-friggin'-believable. What's even more unbelievable is that the average person can't put two and two together and get four...which begs the question, if the masses get wiped out due to their own ignorance, might this be part of the Divine's plan as well?

Anonymous said...

via kathy
thanks for the sentiment Vis. For a while I can't ride my bike or make quilts but I can still read so its ok. The loss of my first daughter, the one who taught me to be a mother before I had borne a child was a terrible loss. One day at a time.
k

lightandlongshadows said...

I don't know why but this entry reminded me of the novel "The Unconsoled" by Kazuo Ishiguro.

I've been having brain spasms the past couple of weeks thinking about how nuclear tech. really has put us between a rock and a hard place. It's effectively cut us off from our default tribal setting. We can't do like the mayans did should or when our civilization fails, not without poisoning everything.

I've been watching the Magical Egypt series lately, interesting info.
This leads into thinking about how far wrong the western esoteric understanding has gone. If one thinks we live in strange and horrific times now check out what the transhumanists have planned. "Knowledge is power", the long history of the technological bludgeon continues by those who feel the need to have power over others. The even freakier show coming soon.

On a different note The Primacy of Consciousness is one of the best presentations I've seen.

Take care all

Anonymous said...

‎"Lose your life if you seek eternity. The master who teaches us is absolute light, not this visibility."
~Rumi

Thomas said...

Also I don't know, Les. However, I believe that I am starting to understand what is meant by "changing the world by changing oneself". When I allow myself to be Divine (or allow the Divine to manifest in me, according to semantics) - this comes about either spontaneously, or after some hours of devotion, depending - things really do happen. People change. I change. If I do it with the heart (because once called, the Divine will come and show me and others exactly how and why I am in that now, for better or worse), it really does seem like it is a positive thing. People ask me to come back, they ask me for advice. They hang by my words, and I must be careful to tell them something that they can use, and to let them know that I am in no way special, but merely channeling something that is available to us All. There is no such thing as practicing humbleness. There is Being humble, which I know I am not always. There is no such thing as holy things, but there is the Sense of Holiness. I have the power to change the world, magically. I have the power to manifest things in nature, and I have senses to lead me to the best possible outcome - albeit like an untrained child. I am very sure that this is true for all of us. What happened? I have been calling Kali for some time, and besides awakening the feminine aspect in me like never before, she tells me that no matter what I do she will Love me like I don't understand. Then, that was a stone from my heart, since this is what I had always lacked, knowing that I was loved. I don't know why I have never understood it before, but I guess that's why they say the greatest lesson is to both LOVE and to BE LOVED. Now, it is much easier. The other day, we were 5 people around a fire and I gave myself ("my"/The One Divine) wholly in song and the others went completely in trance, following. At the peak of the song, I looked at the night sky, and a wobbly light crossed my vision, and my ears rang "here we are!". Realizing that I had brought the 4 others to something there, I kneeled before them and the fire and told them that they had sounded beautiful, and that I loved them - I could do nothing else, because I was so awed by their presence (the Divine had popped into them, as well). Then humbleness came quite naturally. I guess this is a key word, naturally. It just feels like it's right, in both heart, body and soul. There are no rules, and the outcome of anything is weighed by its consequences.

continuing...

Thomas said...

continued...

The spirits are normally cruising around in the upper athmosphere, I guess, but sometimes I experience something like tears in reality of either light or dark, reflecting thoughts or actions. They can come around where they wish, but I have told them that I wish to go by my own Inner Divine, and they tell me that they really respect this decision, as well as saying it is the wisest. Then they just show me when they agree with what I do, it feels like.

Agh. Perhaps I am just fooling myself, but the feeling is of complete and utter calm. I don't care if I have to come back here again and again. I know that the Universe loves me, and that in the end, I shall return to the Light. Curiously, I know this to be true of Everything, but I myself spent a long time ALLOWING that Love to show itself inside me, and to accept it. Determined, then, to enjoy the way and see if I cannot do something for others in the meantime. Perhaps I am just drunken on the power of the Universe, for nothing is mine except my choices, and this might be my downfall, but I seriously doubt it. The clouds part when we dance... Inspiration is the true work, showing others that the Creator of All the Worlds lives right inside them, closer than they could ever expect.

Utterly mind-boggling and mysterious it is, but intensely enjoyable, as well.

Thank you Thank You Thank You All for Being who and what you Are. I wish you Peaceful and Blessed days. I wish for us all that we might laugh at our insignificange in the greater scheme of things, and channel it to Compassion and Love, for ourselves. Then, I find, it will radiate unto others. Please, I wish that you find this, for the sake of All.

Matthew said...

Much love Visible

Laura said...

It feels as if remaining in a state of calm and detached is the order of the day. Staying detached, IMHO, centers one in the Divine, both within and without. It's all swirling around us in chaos and bedlam, and being the eye of the hurricane highly appeals to me. I feel my own empowerment lies there. Beautifully expressed, Les, about the voice of the inner heart. Thank you for all your efforts and your wise writings.

In love and grace ~ Laura

gretchen said...

Through all the turmoil going on around the world at this time I take great solace in going within, meditating and working on myself, a journey long overdue to pursue and a learning experience like no other.

Kathy: A wonderful astrologer I have spoken with is Henry Seltzer and his website is www.astrograph.com .

L.L.O. said...

Aloha,

Just woke from a powerfully vivid dream this morning. I was in India pulling a cart down a muddy road, surrounded by the signs of poverty and suffering. Then I came upon a residence, a relatively nice place, where I heard some low-level three piece jazz playing (which I found strange)accompanied by the scent of the most wonderful incense I had ever smelled (seriously, this smell was literally out of this world I can't even begin to describe it).
Next thing I know I am sitting outside a window looking into a dining room in this house with a bunch of people sitting at a long table. They were guests mingling with what I sensed were demons in human form who owned the house. It gets a little fuzzy after that but what stood out was what happened next.
A pregnant woman came in they all cheered and began chanting and that's when I realized they were all under some sort of spell. At that moment I heard chuckling next to me and turned to see an ancient/youthful, man/woman with long hair dressed only in a sheet. This being confirmed to me that those in the house were most definitely under a spell and that this was the Kali Yuga.
The pregnant woman then undressed and that was when I realized that she was to be sacrificed. I had a horrible feeling come over me and I understood that she represented much more than just a pregnant woman. The being in the sheet was so comforting though, like casting an aura of calmness over me.
I turned away from the window to speak with the being in the sheet.
I was then bombarded with a ton of information that only makes sense in the dream state of mind (know what I mean?).
Not sure what it all meant but I thought I'd share.
Most of my dreams of late have been hyper-vivid like this one and seem to be filled with messages and symbolism.
Anyways, hanging in here.

Mahalo

-L.O.

p.s. The weather in Nor Cal is fantastic right now!

Anonymous said...

Someone handed me a book Called Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter or some such nonsense. Being without any reading material I started reading it. Yes yes of course it is a work of fiction but I am wondering if the author is using the vampire as a metaphor for some other kind of tribe.
Has anyone else read it?

Anonymous said...

via kathy
Lights and Long Shadows - I was turned on to Metahistory.org and learned a great deal about how I can imagine our pre abrahamic religion, pre technology days on this planet.
Gretchen - I appreciate the astrology site. A few years ago a co-worker did my chart and said I have the chart of a queen. My life is more of a queen's scullery maid but he started to treat me with infinitely more respect than he had. I real head shaker that experience.
Thomas-calm is such a fleeting feeling I am happy for you
Peace out

Visible said...

It's a work of fantasy fiction; haven't read it and have no interest to. It's coming out as a major film release any time. My thought is that the subject was chosen simply because of the outrageous absurdity to appeal to idiots but... you never know. Or, at least I don't at the moment.

Patrick V1.2 said...

There sure are a lot of good people around here. Visible you've been a great help to me. I know you don't take credit for this and I understand why now. Like you Kathy I've really come to terms about not expecting anything. If you have trials that rip you away from materialism you are blessed plain and simple. I really look at it like that now. I mean if things had worked out the way I originally thought they should I'd be all of the people I don't want to be today. Thank you Lord.

I was working on landscaping crew yesterday and I was covered in sweat and dirt laying sod. A butterly flew up to me while I was shoveling and landed on my arm. Even as I kept moving it stayed for the longest time. I thought maybe it was stuck so I went to blow on it and as I started to move that way it just flew away. I know this sounds kind of fruity but it gave me this real deep feeling of love and peace for the rest of the day.

So Lord even if I'm not worthy non existence is still merciful. I wouldn't expect you to keep anything except the most useful rare and beautiful pieces.

brokenbeat said...

Vis,

Thanks for this transmission and all you do for us,

John V.

P.S. Damn you Vis for writing a page-turner! I started Darkening and now I'm not gonna get any work done! Amazon sent it first -- I had intended to read Survival first, but it's yet to arrive and now I've cracked Darkening...

ElvisSweet said...

What has encouraged me in reading your blogs and listening to your radio transmissions is how you inspire validation, I always come away feeling validated. You put into words what I would like to say but haven't quite the command of the language or keenness of vision to do so.

I've been seeking the 'truth' since I was a lad. I've turned every stone in pursuit of something I don't know but know I will know when I find it! It's reassuring to also know that the promise is "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you." Well we are all knocking on heavens door, perhaps for more life times than we can imagine yet we continue so to do perhaps more fervently now?

Even though things are dark and they have been for a very long time, the coming epoch is not one to miss, we are in the privilege situation to be the witnesses of the demise of Babylon.

I like what Paul has to say in Romans, feels applicable-

'We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.'

Thanks Mr Visible

Rob in WI said...

Patrick V1.2 @10:36p,
Your description doesn't sound "fruity" at all. It's happened to me a number of times, just as you described. Butterflies are some of the most beautiful and mysterious creatures we share time with. Today, in my little corner of the world, There's a big hatch of dragonflies. Large ones, with 50mm+ wingspans. They're all over the place. Rainbow wings, and body colors that are different with each hatch. In a couple days, they'll be gone. The beauty and wonder the Divine provides for us takes my breath away. One of these days, it will.
Be well, Rob

Peaches said...

I guess Vis you and everyone here have said it all, yet again.

Indeed, I don't know. "I don't know" keeps me humble and grounded. How much I love this place.

Also Vis I love Redicecreations. So happy to hear you'll be there! I think Henrik is a fab interviewer.

Much love to all and great gratitude for your insight and sharing, Peaches

MiaBellezza said...

Vis ... "pulled their pants down"? (grin)

MiaBellezza said...

Commenter at Friday, June 08, 2012 9:36:00 PM
The vampire theme (book: Dracula) was originally based on Vlad III Dracula, aka Vlad the Impaler, who signed all his documents at the bottom 'Dracula'. Vlad, whom Charles claims proudly to be a descendant of ...

Anonymous said...

pierre said...

it can indeed be a black hole on the internet with all this nasty info, challenges to the imagination, and stretching credibilities beyond human endurance. OTOH it's fun enough and better than the main (stream) course, or course. but always important to come back home to where one is.

here's one that was making predictions way back in 2007 that have not come to pass in that time frame. OTOH nice to think the good angels are getting in the way of shit storms (what good (meaning good for the baddies) could come from Fukushima I can only guess which, apart from the important degrees and bigger egos than mine, is, without *proof*, as good a guess as another).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNJWF_JpIyA

and if these harbringers of what will be are disinfo agents, smart arses, or just plain jokers, then why would they bother pulling the wings off butterflies? can't be that all powerful or confident , so there's hope there too.

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about Vis? Abraham Licoln was a vampire hunter... The slave owners in the south made a living off the blood of their slaves, Lincoln stood up to that. I'm just saying maybe it's not so much of a stretch. I was surprised to hear your contempt for the movie. Are you feeling bad? Any act of imagination, no matter how aweful, is a gift from god. It does look pretty strange though, I imagine the book would be better. It usually is. Well I guess it can't be as bad as reality, or Snakes on a plane. I'm tired of these mofo bad movies, on my mofo tv. :-)Nate

ChewyBees said...

It's interesting that hand-in-hand with being duped out of labor energy (money for most), spirituality, nature, peace, love and happiness (to name a few things), most people are dead to rights sure that they aren't, nor could they be, duped on a massive scale, not to mention a small one. Which of course, why it is so easy to dupe a person, or an entire nation. People perpetuate the lie they tell themselves amongst the people.

I'm not above it, I've taken my lumps as has everyone, whether aware or not. One thing I do know, is that I distrust most every organization in any form. One thing about organizations, from 4 people to 4 billion, they have a great collective cleverness for duping people internally, and more importantly, externally. It's because the organization cannot be liable (it is fictional), and the members, particularly those higher up the pyramid, generally absolve themselves of liability too. So the dupe carries the liability, unwittingly, and calls it truth.

They say ignorance is bliss, but I think 'they' (love that nebulous reference) mean bliss is ignorance. Think about the common idea of heaven. Floating around, playing a harp, looking down through the clouds lovingly at those remaining on planet. Sounds like a blissful way to spend all eternity, for an invalid.

I'll take full awareness of the infinite, and the knowing of all the lives before and all the lives to come in an instant. Until then, there can be no limit to the diversity of information we seek. Every organizational loop we find ourselves in, or any loop that isn't dedicated to growth of self, must be constantly diverted from and broken. Anything less than that is self-imposed, mental prison.

A wise man once said to me, upon seeing my inaction, "the world needs ditch-diggers." Actually, that's what the world wants. What the world needs, is a steady supply of dupes.

Anonymous said...

Les, leaders are now insane with wealth and so perverted with pleasures it makes me fear for our childrens future.

What's even worse is how everyday people play along like the good times will never end. What's with those rambling lapdog media whores. Have they no will of their own? They foam at the mouth repeating the same script over and over. There has to be enough sheeps in America to keep the lies flowing, only they may soon find master wants them all rounded up for the final slaughter.

It's what the elite do.
They love fronting both sides of conflicts. Time is not on their side though so we could see things speed up in the coming weeks ahead.

2013 may possibly be the year of the final judgement for many nations.
The hundred year mark is here.
England's bankers in 1913 set up the United States federal reserve. So if numbers are all important to the powers that be knowing how they still do business, are about to try and consolidate power for the satanist NWO.

A royal member of the Fed had bragged, "like it or not," (he took part in creating the Federal Reserve in 1913)said there would be a world government created by conquest or consent. I'm sure they would prefer to reach it by ritual conquest. Thank divine inspiration more and more ordinary people will it not to happen.


Ellipser

Visible said...

A New Smoking Mirrors is up-

The Roach Motel at the End of the Universe.

Anonymous said...

via kathy

Anonymouts@7:41 - Lincoln didn't stand up for anyone but himself and his ideal of centralized govt. He didn't want to free the slaves but said he would to save the union. It was a money grab. He suspended habius corpus for the first time in the country's history and expanded the federal government exponentially. Please read beyond the propaganda oh I mean history books.
Patrick V1.2 - Ditch digging is a manly art and an aware ditch digger will recognize the sacred around him.
Peace out

kikz said...

agreed 'anon via kathy'.. tyrant lincoln was lackey for the railroad barons. he didn't hunt vampires.. he fed them corporate welfare; right of way...lumber and the land.

nate.. what about the slave owners in the north? did they not profit off their slaves' blood? and how bout all those slave ships out those lovely northern ports, eh?

http://www.slavenorth.com/profits.htm


http://www.tracesofthetrade.org/guides-and-materials/historical/northern-involvement-in-the-slave-trade/

http://www.slavenorth.com/slavenorth.htm


fukin google it.. i shouldn't bother doin your homework for you... (eyeroll)
waste of my time...


kikz..
cuz i can't seem to sign into freakin blogger under my nick.

kikz said...

comment moderation.. i know i've been busy elsewhere for some time.. but that development is news to me...


kikz

Visible said...

Comment moderation has been been in for at least 6 or 7 years, probably longer. You must mean something else.

Anonymous said...

re: kikz
I was making an offhand statement not a history essay. If you don't want to do my homework then mind your own buisness. And if you don't like it, then it sucks to be you. Nate

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Visible said...

Also by Tagore, "God respects me when I work but he loves me when I sing".

Anonymous said...

via Homer..

Stella, when you were in the Smokies, out in the fresh air a ways, you expected those dragon flies ... didn't you?

There have always been dragon flies and butter flies and birds and cows and even the odd insect or two. Eh?

And plenty more Tears where those come from..

the gardener said...

Last night I was chatting on the phone, dark skies almost indigo had rushed me inside... when all of a sudden the lights in the kitchen flashed ultra bright-and a big *ZAP* went through my left ear and rendered my mobile landline useless.

It really zapped me in a weird way and today it seems like it cleared my sinuses.

I spent hours eating weeds with a simple minded tool. Glad that I am able to do so. Was going to mow and was clearing an old bench out of the way when I came upon a baby Robin on the ground. Fully feathered but still a baby frozen in its space-its mother fluttering over us.

The baby moved under the cover of a bush nearby and I figured with so many birds and babies using their wings in training that mowing one of them would really ruin my life...

I am worn out in the most thorough way, collapsing over the table that holds my computer before I head for clean up and bed... warm clean kitten cuddled up to my chest the way she likes to do it whilst I type. *grins*

I was thinking about that old line today 'no one ever says on their death bed 'gee I just never worked enough'... I try not to ever regret not holding a plush kitty close enough...

the gardener

in a fugue state

Rahbinah said...

Andy M:

Visible is right. I am one of those astrologers who frequents this site. I can certainly be of service to you regarding your situation. My accuracy rate for predictions and forecasts is very high and my prices are very reasonable. If you are interested, you can email me at: Karma3675@aol.com. I will be more than happy to share with you some of my feedback if need be.

Ray B. said...

"...when the Avatar comes, the Avatar precipitates down through the planes and comes with a broom. The Avatar sweeps out the negative entities on the inner planes. Some of them have been operating there for a long time. They are a major problem, along the lines of 'powers and principalities'..."

In line with the above, I thought I'd share some of the long-range 'preparations' for this. Back in 1998 and 1999, I visited the Orkney Islands, north of Scotland. (The Consciousness Levels listing is on the previous "Visible Origami" at May 26, 11:36:00 PM, for those who want to follow along.)

At the Stones of Stenness stone circle in 1998, I sensed an immediate presence (48-level) and communicated with it. Strangely enough, I had the words "I have returned" and, later, "Do you want to be in on this?" come straight out of my soul or spirit towards the entity. On the latter, it 'thought' a bit and responded "Yes." We had to move on long before I was done there, so I was also aware that I was in soul-sharing information mode with that entity for a long time afterward.

The Ring of Brogar stone circle is literally just up the road from Stenness. It is physically Big. I started walking the edge path at the stones and ended up having 'conversations' with two Druid-like 'guardians'. Walking further, I was then 'grabbed' by my Higher Self and hustled to the center of the circle. There was a very powerful stone circle-type entity (57-level) just below ground at that spot. I tuned-in and communicated with it. There was a sense of 'unfoldment'. Then, it was like a combination of being at the center of a huge searchlight filling beyond the whole circle, plus a sense of a 'wind' blowing through you. (This type of feeling may be how the imagery came about that is associated with the Norse Gods.) It lasted during the communing, and then kind of 'completed' and withdrew. Very impressive.

When I returned in 1999, the Ring of Brogar stone circle was now marked with signs stating not to go into the circle. So, I was conflicted. Nevertheless, I was soon 'grabbed' and ended up at the center. The entity came out again, but there was soon a difference. Arrayed around the perimeter of the entity were nine high-level Elves (38-level).

The stone circle-type entity started talking to the Elves, though at some high-level that I could not comprehend. Later, I was told by the Elves that this was when they were informed that they, too, had been 'monkeyed with' by the bad guys. (Previously, they had watched the human race 'descend', and thought that was by our choice alone.)

There was one word that the Elves used (which I have now forgotten), that I could not understand. In a later meeting with a different group of Elvish-types, I asked what it meant. A single-word reply came back: "Armageddon." That was when I knew the Elves had decide to 'respond' to being messed with.

(continued)

Ray B. said...

(continued)

The following 'event' may also relate to Vis' "Avatar" scenario. In 1998, we visited Hurlers stone circles, and I had a major surprise! Physically, the site consists of three stone circles laid out end-to-end. The circle closest to the path was mangled when a farmer pushed a road through it. I first noticed an energy presence within this mangled circle, but walked through all three circles to check them out.

At the upper circle, I asked Higher Self, "What do I need to notice?" My attention was immediately pulled to a stone circle-type entity (30-level) below that circle. I communicated, and then was directed to a similar being (30-level) in the air over the circle. I communicated again, and then was attracted to a point outside that circle. There, I did something with a third entity (30-level). Instantly, a 'link' of some kind was flashed between the third and the air entity, followed by the air and ground entities 'linking', and an immaterial 'bar' forming through the three stone circles and beyond.

My Higher Self moved me down to the lower, mangled stone circle where I had first sensed the energy presence. There, I communicated with a matching ground and air entity (both 30-level). There was no third entity here. And then, they 'linked'.

Then, I was 'guided' back to the center circle, and outside it.

Next, the strangest thing happened. It was like 'I' sent a pulse somewhere saying 'it was ready'; whatever that was. Then, some kind of confirmation took place. Finally, the area containing the center circle 'lit up' as a sphere (half above and half below ground). Amazingly, all sorts of a-few-foot-diameter, energy-globe 'people' (36-48 levels) started 'materializing' and coming out of the sphere.

At this point, I had an "Oh, sh_t, what have I done?" moment. I quickly checked with Higher Self, to make sure that 'they' were positive. They were.

The rest of the group were long gone for lunch. So, as I left, I asked Higher Self for an explanation of what was going on. In summary, the response was that - long ago - various entities from another higher dimension had constructed a machine/gateway into our dimension for the purpose of visiting/experiencing. Many 'folks' had come through. Over a long time, though, apparently there was some form of devolvement or densifying such that the pain level on 'our' side was actually becoming threatening to 'their' side. So, they shut the machine/gateway down from 'their' side. For a long, long time. Now, for some reason, they want it open. (I keep checking-in on that machine/gateway, and it is still open - with additional energy-globe 'people' still coming through.)

Incidentally, on the walk out, there were lots of grave barrows around, with souls still in them. Many of them wanted to go through the 'gate', so there may be an ancient connection. Pretty wild...

Best Wishes,
Ray B.

brokenbeat said...

Ray B.,

Appreciative as always for your comments. Pls revist last PD. Rob in WI addressed you and I had posed some questions to you earlier that may have gotten lost in the deluge spewed forth from moi. The comment is the third on a flurry from me. Feel free to answer me there if you prefer.

Many Thanks,

John V.

brokenbeat said...

All,

There is so much wisdom in these posts, the comments, the links, the radio shows and Vis' books for which I am truly grateful. I am doing my darndest to understand and integrate what resonates (and some that does not, or does so at a less than comfortable way as it crumbles some ossified structures) into my life in these times. Some is simple and clear, some simple in language but challenging to assimilate. I have nothing meaningful to contribute, but just wanted to thank all for sharing.

With open eyes, ears, heart and mind,

John V.

Anonymous said...

To dear Mr and Mrs Visible

Congratulations again on your wedding.

Its only now that i have read through that book by Joseph brenner that i understand why you insist on refusing any titles of guruship. (i think thats a word?)
(and according to a certain law that links the act of thinking with creating, then it is)

I see now that it all has to do with looking within instead of without for aguide.

and that noone can replace the guiding light within

(and damn i wish i had a cool story like Ray.B)

Love from
Alan, 19 yo kid from Perth

Visible said...

A new Reflections in a Petri Dish-

Hopalong Cassidy and Mr. Silicone Skin at the Not OK Corral..

Visible said...

Alan... heh heh, uh, I'm unaware of any wedding or anything like it in recent times that would prompt this but I am glad you are reading Brenner's work. You can't go wrong with him.

Stella Blue said...
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Visible said...

Well Stella, you are not stupid; uninformed on occasion, but I include the whole human race in that and thank my lucky stars I am not part of it.

You've discovered that Homer probably knows more than all of us put together and will deny it even more vehemently than me. You're not stupid. All the cogs and wheels playing out their dramas here have their own approach. The wisest see the selective things Homer has done on the Hare Krishna poem at streams of consciousness blog; probably a thousand now, I don't know but Homer knows that I read every single one with more attention than I give to any comment on any blog because he and I are brothers in the admiration or Prabupapada, whom I have met, although I never went that route.

I did all that hard time but my respect is not easily won; not by a long shot. I have heard every lyrical twist to the unending bullshit of these latter days. I myself can, without thinking about it, make people cry and wish to God they could be near me but... unlike all the fake shit and... I mean skillfully done, unlike the fake shit, some of us know who has and has the goods.

Homer gets that. He's been a rock for me and I get that too and some few other readers like the Captain Spadgett get it too. You'll see it if you ever go through the comments and the test is that a lot of it sounds like the most elusive, out of control dogmatic shit you may ever encounter and... you don't have to go through it, just recognize that most everyone who comes around here is sincere as far as it goes but I was in the Garden of Gethsemane and well before that too and Homer is Samwise because without Homer, there is no visible and you just remember what Frodo had to say about that and truly remember, the real hero is not the one with the flashy skills and all those words. The real hero is... do I need to say it?

I am the real thing; the real thing acknowledges and Homer will be one of the first to see this because he sleeplessly trolls these spaces to make sure i am okay. If I have not said it by now, it cannot be said. Credit where credit is, fucking overdue.

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Verun Rahimtoola said...

Great post, Viz.

I'm sorry if this sounds completely unrelated, but what are your thoughts on Terence McKenna? Lately I've been watching a lot of videos on YouTube (clips of his lectures over the years) and I must say I'm quite fascinated. I'd love to know what your take is on TM!

Visible said...

On Terrence McKenna, let me use a street slang phrase I never use, well, I pretty much hate all of them, especially, "Just saying". and saying things like "so fun" or using 'so' as it gets used but Terrence is the bomb. He's a courageous, truthful, shining light in God's firmament and you just don't get too many like him. And yeah, I'm speaking about him as if he's still around because as far as I'm concerned he is.

There aren't very many people in the public eye that I can unqualifiably say nothing but good things about. That's a damn shame; Terrence is one of them, one of those people that when he sees the master he hears, "Well done".

Anonymous said...

via Homer..

Les Visible prabhu, I'm honestly the lowest form of devotee. It likely a bit of a stretch to even say this..

The one thing I do possess is faith, gratitude and love for Srila Prabhupada, Lord Krishna's dear associate.

Guru parampara is essential.

If I'm able to maintain this faith remains to be seen.

I do believe in transcendental moments.

brokenbeat said...

FWIW, I'm also a big fan of Terrence McKenna. Alan Watts as well... (no real nexus there except in concurrent exploration on my part)

John V.

Visible said...

Well, you know Homer, in this case, it doesn't matter what you think or say about yourself. What matters is what I think about you and you are an inspiration to me, not the postings at SOC...just you. You are living proof that what you believed in is real because otherwise I would not only not be here but I would not continue doing this.

You're my hero brother, no way around it and don't ask me why I feel this way. After all, I am fully telepathic, as I guess you know but obviously more than that and how can it be that I have this? pause.... wait for it..... keep waiting.... drum roll.... boom fucking boom. Do I have to say his name? Ergo, every word I just said was true or... do you need to do the math?

the gardener said...

RE: Stella Blue~"The largest dragonfly I ever saw in my life came flying thru the Food City (ain't that jest a Suthun grocery name?) like a mechanical airplane!"

and one day soon...*grins* one that is a mechanical airplane will zoom in on you at the nearest Piggly Wiggly! whatchu gonna do?

Do they have those drones programmed to snoop when the skies are all milked out white? When we can't see out but they can see in?

Mother help us all. I've been working on a 'cloaking' device an ancient little hummingbird taught me about, how to get so still nothing feels or feeds off of your vibe. No vibe output= invisible

Visible said...

If everybody is going to be in visible where am I supposed to go?

Stella Blue said...
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Visible said...

That absolutely begs for some kind of humorous riposte involving a jockstrap, but I'm a gentileman.

torus said...

Some several thousand year old tradition? As in evil blanketing the whole planet so the "good" Lord krishna can appear to admire his handiwork?

Best wishes

Anonymous said...

Here's the answer to such an immature question.

Obviously you're smart enough to find this on your own.

Here you go.. Best Wishes!

Google: Bhaktivedanta VedaBase Network
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Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 4.14

TRANSLATION

There is no work that affects Me; nor do I aspire for the fruits of action. One who understands this truth about Me also does not become entangled in the fruitive reactions of work.

PURPORT

As there are constitutional laws in the material world stating that the king can do no wrong, or that the king is not subject to the state laws, similarly the Lord, although He is the creator of this material world, is not affected by the activities of the material world. He creates and remains aloof from the creation, whereas the living entities are entangled in the fruitive results of material activities because of their propensity for lording it over material resources. The proprietor of an establishment is not responsible for the right and wrong activities of the workers, but the workers are themselves responsible. The living entities are engaged in their respective activities of sense gratification, and these activities are not ordained by the Lord. For advancement of sense gratification, the living entities are engaged in the work of this world, and they aspire to heavenly happiness after death. The Lord, being full in Himself, has no attraction for so-called heavenly happiness. The heavenly demigods are only His engaged servants.
He is aloof from the material actions and reactions. For example, the rains are not responsible for different types of vegetation that appear on the earth, although without such rains there is no possibility of vegetative growth. Vedic smṛti confirms this fact as follows:

"In the material creations, the Lord is only the supreme cause. The immediate cause is material nature, by which the cosmic manifestation is made visible." The created beings are of many varieties, such as the demigods, human beings and lower animals, and all of them are subject to the reactions of their past good or bad activities. The Lord only gives them the proper facilities for such activities and the regulations of the modes of nature, but He is never responsible for their past and present activities. In the Vedānta-sūtra (2.1.34) it is confirmed, vaiṣamya-nairghṛṇye na sāpekṣatvāt: the Lord is never partial to any living entity. The living entity is responsible for his own acts. The Lord only gives him facilities, through the agency of material nature, the external energy.

Ray B. said...

Vis, I am re-posting my PD piece here, as it seems more VO on second thought. Hope that's okay...

brokenbeat / John V., Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:37:00 PM :

"Pls revisit last PD... I had posed some questions to you earlier that may have gotten lost..."

So, back on the last PD :

"I've read somewhere ... that our souls are thought to be the connection structure to the super-conscious mind, God if you will, and that our divine spirit is incarnated in flesh now but eventually returns to source by means of the soul. Our true selves, our essence, of each incarnation is expressed from our higher-self. Where do souls fit into this ontology? Are they a vehicle for spirit between us here and our higher-self? And per your understanding, what is the hierarchy and structures between the higher-self and All That Is?"

(Vis rolls his eyes... grin)

Understanding that I am a beginner in these realms, the following are my current views:

I am probably unusual in that I see such a vast amount of 'vertical' space between earthly incarnation and all-God (except for the immanent aspect). Most folks think of just three vertical spaces - body, soul, and all-God. I have visited more than a dozen, and there are probably hundreds or more. This has given me a different, 'long' view of the 'other side' and the soul's place within it.

I had a long experience back around 1988 which illustrated how we worked our way down here. It started with some earlier 'me' (as perhaps my Higher Self) in some higher space or plane. I had been there long enough to become the equivalent of 'bored'. I could sense something going on 'below' me, which intrigued me. There was a 'desire' to know more. Somehow, I went through some kind of gate or shift, and ended up in this next-lower plane (which pre-existed my entrance).

I then had a set of behaviors that proved true through subsequent 'descents'. First, I realized that I was 'diminished' in some way, and stared back at where I had come from (for quite a while) in a kind of wistful longing for what 'was'. Next, that feeling faded, and I took stock of my current surroundings. Finally, I gave myself over to experiencing what this 'new' plane of existence had to offer (with the old, higher plane fading into abstract memories).

After some long 'time', I fulfilled what could be experienced in the current 'plane'. As before, I began to 'hear' another, deeper 'song'. Eventually, another downwards shift took place - again, based on the desire to know or experience 'more'. The same set of behaviors then followed.

I went through several 'shifts' (don't remember the exact number, now), and eventually ended up 'here' on the earth plane. I believe that this is the 'bottom' layer, as I am definitely 'done' here and do not hear the 'siren song' of any deeper layer.

The most important things I got out of the above were the many 'layers' existing, and how each was reached through desire. (I am using "desire" in a positive, life-affirming sense here, not as a preachy, derogatory, religious term.)

(continued)

Ray B. said...

(continued)

Now, how this relates to the soul: I have a sense of the soul only in the last 'drop'. It was not there (and unneeded) in any of the previous 'planes'. Somehow, it was created for humans to drop down 'here' - the last level. My current sense is that the soul 'primes' who we 'are' in a given incarnation in order to jump-start certain experiences. As Vis has said several times, death is a way for us to 'escape' when we are blocked (or self-blocked) from moving to our next set of needed experiences. In other words, if you were 'fluid' enough, you might experience Everything the soul 'needs' in one lifetime and perhaps Ascend out of here permanently. (Ultimately, using my earlier 'root' analogy, it might be possible to be conscious everywhere on the 'root' at once...)

My sense is that a soul 'grows' a body. The chakras are 'put in' later (from the soul) as control mechanisms. They 'pull out' a short time before the soul separates from the body at bodily death. (An aside: I once saw a 'fey'-acting lady who had two complete sets of chakras. Really weird. I was young and naive enough not to do any further investigating.)

To sum up, I want to emphasize that - just on the 'plane' including the soul - there is a vast amount of vertical 'distance' both above and below the soul. For instance, Elves and Stone Circle Entities both exist above the soul within this plane. And, there is all the 'work-up' from shaman to saint to sage and finally to different 'grades' of ascension - all below the soul. It is a big 'world'.

(By the way, I am 'allowing' that the soul may - repeat "may" - not be a positive thing. I am 'paranoid' enough to also *consider* that it may have been created [or modified] by those of the 'farmer' ilk. I have 're-integrated' many split-off past lives that have useful 'tools' and 'knowings'. How convenient that, with enough 'splits', we end up with a Darwinian, meat-bag view of ourselves. I wonder who would benefit from that? Just musing...)

I hope this helps (grin). And thanks for all your insightful postings...

Best Wishes,
Ray B.

Anonymous said...

via Homer..

Anyone interested in the spirit soul, its original constitutional position and material associations might want to peruse this..

Human Devolution: A Vedic Alternative to Darwin's Theory
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"What is a human being?" Cremo asserts that humans are a combination of matter, mind, and
consciousness (or spirit).

Human Devolution contains solid scientific evidence showing how a subtle mind element and a conscious self that can exist apart from the body have been systematically eliminated from mainstream science by a process of knowledge filtration. "Any time knowledge filtration takes place you can expect a great deal of resistance, criticism, and ridicule when it is exposed and challenged," says Cremo.
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Michael Cremo, (Drutakarma Das) also wrote, in conjunction with the dear departed Richard Thompson (Sadaputa Dasa), the incredible anti mainstream establishment science book;

"Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race"

In 1996 when NBC aired its special The Mysterious Origins
of Man, hosted by Charlton Heston and featuring the "Forbidden Archeology" book, establishment scientists felt so threatened by this program that they lobbied the Federal Communications Commission to
censure and fine NBC for airing it.

"Forbidden Archeology" gives us the cover-up and now
"Human Devolution" brings us the true story.

"By the 1880s, the governing establishments of Christendom were dreading the very word 'archaeologist'. And so, archaeological digs were brought under strict control, and their funding and undertakings had to be approved by newly designated authorities."

"One of these, the Egypt Exploration Fund, was established in Britain in 1891, and on the very first page of its Memorandum and Articles of Association it is stated that the Fund's objective is to promote excavation work "for the purpose of elucidating or illustrating the Old Testament narrative".

"In short, this meant that if something was found which could be used to support the scriptural teaching, then we (the public) would be informed. Anything which did not support the Church interpretation of the Bible was not destined to see the light in the public domain."