Thursday, October 22, 2009

God and Babylon says the Body Dreaming

Dog Poet Transmitting.......

Bypassing the Petri Dish... headed straight for Origami; this chill gray day... forces in motion for Visible (not Visible 2.0) transiting... tiny dish of K preparing itself in the athanor... parsimonious or circumspect universe... which is it? ...gratitude irrespective in any case... cut to post/


We’ve heard that life is a dream. We’ve heard it in children’s songs and adult love songs and we weave through it in the course of our lives. The dream is powerful. It is very powerful. Right in the midst of it we think ourselves awake as we reflect on the dream quality but this is dreaming too.

We dream because of the body. The body is the ship of Morpheus. In our minds we have the whole thing backwards. We actually wake up when we die, until then we dream. ...Dreams of action and things to come in the early days and dreams of reflection and inconsistent memories in the later days; the body is a dream suit. It’s a grounding device for the yearning spirit. It’s what makes you visible here.

It takes a great and consistent effort to awaken from the spell of dreaming. It begs the question too; are those awakened or partially awakened also dreaming? We’ve all had that dream where we are trying to wake up and cannot and then we wake up and think we are awake only to find that we were still dreaming when we actually woke up.

The dream elements are Fire, Air, Water and Earth. Stare into the flames of a fire and note the hypnotic state that comes upon you. Your dreaming thoughts travel in the air. Water is the very essence of the dreaming state. It pools and puddles and flows. It pours. It rages and it lies still. It mirrors the dreamer in the dreaming state. Earth is the composition of the debt of presence. It is the handfuls of substance that generates the dreams the way it conspires with Sun (fire) and Rain (water) to produce the fruits and grains, the flowers and the weeds. Each of these are major dream worlds. The seeds of dreams travel upon the air. They land in every kind of soil. Everything is metaphor.

The most unusual thing about the dream is this. There is this eternal system that combines and separates. It is infinitely pregnant with possibility and abundance. It is the actual operation of demi-God elements weaving one another into the circumstances of the dreaming life. We look right at it but do not see it. It surrounds us but somehow it is invisible. It has consistency and uniformity and that gives it the appearance of something real but it is turning and twisting and changing all the time. It is coming and going. Can anything be real that is no longer what it was? This is that relative world.

Billions of souls, ...each of them weaving carpets; singly, in concert, in great concert. The uncountable fingers of the mind’s industry. They work with the pattern. They work against the pattern. They change the pattern but it is all directed from a central point out of which the spiral spins. The immensity of the many little industries is staggering. The larger collections of villages and towns... the larger collections of cities and states... the larger collections of nations and continents and hemispheres all... dreaming individually and collectively at the same time. The power at the dream centers is greater. You can hear the actual threads of the dream turn into temporary symphonies of collected sounds. Car horns and voices tuned in the wind to a pitch of synchronicity. It hums up off the pavement. The bass drums of the buses and lorries.

God moves in the dream and can be recognized by his qualities. What are the qualities of God? When you see them you know God has been there. Religions are like intricately woven carpets. The more it weaves to the marketplace the more it takes upon itself the character of the market and the less you know of the thing itself. Well.... Actually it perverts and is no longer the right carpet. The true carpet shimmers with light. It bleeds in remarkable colors all woven from white light. It pours down from the snow capped mountains and colorizes the valley. One thinks of the Ganges or the Nile or the Euphrates. Fecund and ever birthing anew. Mystery and dreams.

Babylon does not need to be named Babylon to be Babylon.

God knows the heart of everyone. From the particular, through vast time and circumstance, the divine weaves the singular thread into the warp and woof. Light and dark combine for contrast and motivations multiply outward to the crystallization of the hard currency of the world and the horned emperor who sits astride the dual world with the dual horns that proclaim the balanced interaction and exchange of commerce where everything is for sale and everything has a price and it’s not the one you see on the tag but everything does not have a price in the wakening realm but everything comes at a cost. Some things are priceless and free simultaneously at the cost of experience or practice.

Who’s who and what’s what is defined in the presentations. I recall something about a dog retuning to the vomit but there goes the beauty.

The dream is very much like a kaleidoscope infused with particular waves of music which set the mood. As the larger appetites acquire to themselves more and more of what they could never possibly use in a personal way while denying access in a general way the world becomes disagreeable. The funny part, if it’s funny at all, is that there is more than enough for everyone. Look at the effort of a single apple tree.

The body is a coffin. It’s a time release capsule and a cassette in the player.

Somehow the dreamer needs to come into harmony with the dream. There is the false harmony of ‘going along to get along’ and then there is the actual t’ai chi of the thing as it moves toward the greater purpose. If I mention feng shui, you might think I was turning Chinese but... you use what fits to accommodate. The Chinese are interesting and you have to admit, the creator made a lot of them. Something in the dream is moving there and soon to become something different than it was. Brooding is a kind of dreaming and small collections of self-important leaders are brooding about things as if they had anything to do with anything. They think they do but they are dreaming. Brood on.

Awakening is the light that illuminates the threads in the carpet. This happens at times the same way that the music changes and it is important to note that there are a number of super highways going in certain directions and some slender paths that are not without their amenities.

This is happening now. There’s a general direction and there’s the unpredictable you. Consider it a spice.

On it goes.

Visible sings: Songwriter by Les Visible♫ And We Could All Be Free ♫
'And We Could All Be Free' is track no. 8 of 10 on Visible's 2006 album 'Songwriter'
Lyrics (pops up)

Songwriter by Les Visible

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you Les.

Dreams are mimicked by psychedelic drugs (LSD etc) while we are under the influence and awake.

We all love to dream - whether we are sleeping or not.

Mouser

Mckenna Boy said...

McKenna fan says:

Very jazzy. Fits the music we`re listening to. Nice.


I forgot about Ken Wilber for a while.

Then I visited his site the other day, and trawled for 911 references. Didn`t find anything new.

Ken`s a great hero, I think. And him and his master, La Di Da, will help a great many people over the next 26,000 years, as they take another spin in the divine washing machine.

I guess that`s why Wilber`s smarter than Einstein, but dumber than Jesse Motherfucking Ventura at the same time.

Gov. Ventura fucking rocks.

You know, on the other hand, Kenny-chan is not dead yet. It would shock the daylights out of me, but I`m willing to be pleasantly surprised if he`s willing to stop being all Chomsky and shit.

In the meantime, this blog is much more entertaining. It`s just about as entertaining as hanging out with this girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKzorCtCvXk

keepa rockin` it, my man!

Zoner said...

Thank you for this today. No need to comment further on synchronicity it seems - are we all becoming one in the dream?

Sometimes it is hard to tell exactly what state is in operation at a given moment. Lines are blurring, and some would suspect insanity or physiological issues. No chemicals are responsible (that I'm aware of), so it becomes a deeper mystery,

As long as I keep "waking up" each morning, I guess it's best to just go with it, enjoy the scenery, don't try to grab the wheel, and see where this ride ends.

Gratitude, music, laughter - the blessed spices here. Very gray and damp with a deep chill, but it has charms as well. Put a pot on and simmer all day.

Traveling a slender path, but lots of curves and elevation changes. Hey, thanks for driving. Thanks for everything.

And one more note of gratitude for our host. Can we trouble you for a song today?

Z

Babaji said...

Are you doing something? Look again; it is only the interaction of the senses and their objects. Both are illusory, as well as the sense of being the doer, of being the body, and of being the mind that observes them. We are none of these things, and yet we are real; only, our sense of reality has become projected outward onto things that are not our real self.

karmaṇy akarma yaḥ paśyed
akarmaṇi ca karma yaḥ
sa buddhimān manuṣyeṣu
sa yuktaḥ kṛtsna-karma-kṛt

"One who sees inaction in action, and action in inaction, is intelligent among men, and he is in the tranecendental position, although engaged in all sorts of activities." [Bhagavad-gītā 4.18]

In the service of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
Babaji

Anonymous said...

"Babylon does not need to be named Babylon to be Babylon."

Been asking for a sign. The universe delivered one, through you, in this one line. Add to that the email I received yesterday from my friend in Costa Rica, wondering when I would be leaving Babylon.

Synchronicity.

Visible said...

reprinted from Smoking Mirrors

One of the things that really makes me feel good is hearing from the Hare Krishna people. I have always had a genuine love for them. They make me smile and I've met a number of them and they have proven to be some of the best people I ever met. I'm well aware of certain problems concerning ISKON but that happens to every organization. Since relentless chanting of Krishna's name is a fast track to the goal it does have some risk to it. My particular practice is fast track also and I know the kinds of things that come up as a result. It's definitely not for the timid.

The free Krishna feasts are fantastic and if you've never attended one you really should. Sometimes- usually- the food is off the charts.

Another thing that warms my heart is the level of intelligence here. Some of the brightest people I've ever run into show up here and educate and entertain the Hell out of me. It's funny how you and I are often thinking the same things. It's happened so much- as many of you know- that it is almost commonplace now."

Patrick said...

This reality that we perceive in this waking dream is but the shimmering surface of a vast ocean.

As we pass from one multi-dimensional reality to another in this journey of life and lives we are part of an expanding consciousness that is growing and experiencing all that is possible. (that is a lot)

'God' is experiencing all that is possible and creating all that is possible.

I forget the proper term, but I suspect one day Les that your will start to shimmer and turn to pure light.

Amicus

Anonymous said...

Les
Smiles. I wonder how it is you share so many ideas dear to me without effort? The stuff of dreams is sooo much as you suggest but the four corners of the "earth" idea is still just terms. The apple tree seems much more real to dream with?
"Everything is metaphor" Yep and to that end you suggest eastern ideas very well. Tao is my first love at about 15 years old. The metaphor is such a power way to talk and see, because onenes is using you as one too!!!!
LeMat

Onequill flew over the hedgehog said...

...God's not dead he's merely writing...

Great posts and podcasts, Les

Best mind-food I've tasted

-------------------------

Are we living dreams
Where nothing means what it seems

yeah

You know your going to come to me
Everybody does eventually
I am going to show you ecstasy

oh yeah

You know it's true
There's really only you
Dreaming that I am me
And being the seeing seed

Rebel 4E said...

"Once Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi"

I dream therefore I am....
merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily on my way to nowhere in particular! (-___-)

Respects,

kikz said...

beautiful.

thanks :)

Anonymous said...

"These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep."
The Tempest IV:1 148-158

Wonder how Shakespeare came to this.

A treat his week , almost daily postings! Thank you.

Your words have managed to ground me and give me a serene faith; a poise which seems to be able to feel the pain and suffering of all creation and at the same time experience the joys that are scattered through it - birdsong, autumn glow, blue, blue skies, bulky and wispy clouds - carpet shot through with all that can be perceived, felt, and thought. Gratitude for the wonder of it.

Anonymous said...

'Do not take life's experiences too seriously. Above all, do not let them hurt you, for in reality they are nothing but dream experiences...
If circumstances are bad and you have to bear them, do not make them a part of yourself. Play your part in life, but never forget that it is only a role.' Paramahansa Yogananda.

'Who looks outside dreams; who looks inside wakes.' Carl G. Jung

And Les's piece.

Well, we can't say we weren't told!

Thanks, Les.

Amicus, it wouldn't surprise me either.

S. Cat

chuckyman said...

Hi Les, as one of the unwashed, breaking in from the other sites I never expected to be posting here. I took your advice to heart and have been trying to open up to the possible.

I have found that every time I try to meditate I wake up at exactly the same time - 2:00 AM. One morning this week I had a dream that I had to awaken from to prove it was a dream. I haven’t had the chance to piece together what I witnessed – both in the dream and later when I awoke.

Thank you for seeding the idea of what may await me out/in there.

If this is not too disrespectful I would like to add the words of the profane Bill Hicks:-

“People say "Iraq had the fourth largest army in the world". Yeah, maybe, but you know what, after the first 3 largest armies, there's a REAL big f***ing drop-off. The Hare Krishnas are the 5th largest army in the world, and they've already got all our airports.”

If only that were true.

C

Visible said...

chuckyman, I am generally to be found among the publicans and sinners and Bill Hicks is okay with me, so is Jesus who more than just alright a la the Dooobie Brothers and I very especially like Lord Buckley

Anonymous said...

C
Love Bill Hick thanks for rememinding me of his work!!! A master of the mind he was. On the topic laughs can be a good form of
meditation too!!!
When awake(really dreaming) be mindful and think about each word and action. When meditating (really waking up) test and play with the mind, use not words for the mind will try to be full? Let meaning leave you like a leaf falling to the ground?
To me, these to states are all that one needs?
LeMat

The deejay said.... said...

OOOHHHHH! Another hot joint from Les V....a smooth hook...with a phat beat to match...yo I like your flow...keep it bangin' dawg... ;) pond owl

josh said...

Les- What do we mean by the term "awakened"? I see the terms "awakening", and "awake" being used in many places now. Do we mean seeing the web of lies and the negative conditions of the world today for what it really is, while striving for more love and compassion? Or do we mean seeing the truth about ourselves, our own singular being, while stiving for self-realization and God consciousness? Or do we mean a mixture of both? I probably just answered my own question, I think it is a mixture of both. Any thoughts on this? pond owl

Anonymous said...

Thanks for being a re-affirmation for one who has lived a full life.

Anonymous said...

Les, can one get visions or experience out of body experiences where you gain knowledge without taking drugs?

I guess the reason I'm asking is because I don't take any sort of drugs and don't really want to. I never get visions and my dreams don't seem to speak to me either although for the first time in my life I am able to remember my dreams (within the last 6 months--but they are usually disturbing dreams after I ask for good ones!)

I don't get answers when I ask for them either, however, I do seem to know certain things with certainty--like knowing without really knowing why I know, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I was just wondering if I am limited by not taking drugs.

Karen

Babaji said...

@Les: Thanks for the warm welcome. ISKCON was created as a corporate religious organization, because currently only such a beast can survive in the Western world. I've come a long way since ISKCON, now we have a small esoteric school in India with a few serious disciples and an extensive online presence. We are much deeper into the mystical and esoteric side of the teaching than is possible in a big organization. Yes, the food is still just as good. Come on over sometime.

@Josh: 'Awakened' in our tradition means seeing the falsity of the material bodily conception of life, and realizing the primacy of consciousness. It also means developing one's consciousness to the point of having direct personal contact and relationship with God.

arthe hy avidyamāne 'pi
saṁsṛtir na nivartate
manasā liṅga-rūpeṇa
svapne vicarato yathā

"Sometimes we suffer because we see a tiger in a dream or a snake in a vision, but actually there is neither a tiger nor a snake. Thus we create some situation in a subtle form and suffer the consequences. These sufferings cannot be mitigated unless we are awakened from our dream." [Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 4.29.35]

Mouser said...

If you want to awake to a cold and concentrated cold water stream on your skin I recommend you go and look at the video:
The Fall of the Republic
which came out on youtube 21/10-09.
Forgiving the author's failure to come clean about the Mossad factor in the inside-job of 9/11 (perhaps because he is rumoured to be married to a jewess) the above video is much, much better and more focused and bullhorn-free compared to ALL of his previous work.

Visible said...

Karen;

My apologies in advance. I'm not the Big Kashuna but I don't have to swim at the small end of the pool either; if you catch my drift. Drugs are an unnecessary stumbling block on the road to awareness and self realization and I never have or will encourage anyone to engage in such things.

All these temporal forms are an escape. What I may or may not do personally is no one's affair. It is so that in this life some are drawn to different paths with a soul history that inclines and prepares them for it. So it may be that certain very specialized components have introduced themselves a time or two with mixed results.

The presence of a realized master is all one would ever need of any drug because the presence itself takes the place of that.

I do not set myself up as such a person and have no intention of doing so. What you find here is an eclectic blend of transmissions I get from the arenas of my engagement in the hope that some portion of it will be useful. This is also a place for like minded souls to find each other and make of it what they will.

All one has to do is reach within with enthusiasm and unflinching determination and the path will be opened.


...............................

Let me place something here that may or may not be necessary. It won't be for those who have been around awhile because I think we have a general understanding. It is rare when I don't see something coming from some way off. I get little cues and examples; little indications of bad intent in my direction.

The world and it's controlling interest in the minds of those it feeds from does not enjoy competition and I am that. There are others too. Most of the fountains that sit in front of the grand hotels of this world and present something called wisdom is really a front for these hotels. It's like the cheap airline flights and free rooms at Las Vegas. It's not free at all.

What you get here is free. I am only at a certain level and much reliant upon my teacher for all I say and do that is of value but, here you will not be pick-pocketed or have your head remodeled for profit of scoundrels.

I didn't get where I am nor will I arrive where I am sure to arrive were I a common fool. In this world of treachery and betrayal it is hard to know at what level one should set the security of the entrance. I have chosen to make it accessible but that does not mean that it is a free for all. It's not.

I tend to think I'm pretty aware of what goes on here and where people are coming from 'most' of the time. Because I cannot always know and don't want to presume to know, I allow myself to be more vulnerable that might be wise but it doesn't mean I don't have my eyes open.

Many greetings to the always new visitors that find their way here. As time compresses and events take their toll we may find ourselves in closer quarters than we do today. I would like to think it would only be better then and at no time will some Shake and Bake manufacturing zone arise from the humble bedrock of this small way station.

Warm Regards all around.

Visible said...

There is a most pertinent Petri Dish offering up today and one might want to employ a little ingenuity in understanding its purpose-




Mea Culpa in the Miso Soup.

Babaji said...

@Les: We're with you on that. We leave the front door wide open and the library unlocked; but go any deeper into the house and you encounter a series of increasingly sophisticated filters. We do read our server logs and are well aware of the level of scrutiny to which we are subjected, and by whom.

At the same time there are many innocent folks out and about who could benefit from our tradition, so we make sure that all of our materials are always available free. Everything is there for those who like do-it-yourself projects. Should you like some companionship, assistance, or even guidance, there is an online community and forum to join for those who dig deep enough. These are also free.

Visitors who really appreciate our work can give a donation, but we will never, ever ask for them. And yes, there are some courses you can buy. But we don't push those either. We find that our main sponsor has deep enough pockets and a kind enough heart that He arranges in appropriately mysterious ways to care for those who do His work. The same goes for protection from the baddies, and there are some major-league rascals playing in our space. We stay well clear of them.

Our real serious students, the ones who come to live with us, basically turn their entire lives over to our school. We don't demand that, either, but it just sort of seems natural, and it works. The rules for taking care of yourself change where then is real love. Ten hearts are better than one.

In the service of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
Babaji

Visible said...

Babaji;

Thank you for that as I can see you are aware of what I am referencing. It's not just here but in emails and certain other pertinent avenues. I've just addressed it in the new Petri Dish essay linked above.

It is my intention to come to India next winter- God willing- and I will certainly consider dropping by. I had intended to visit Arunachala but I had no plans beyond that. I am surely to be coming in 2013- God willing for the grand Kumbamela which I have been planning for a long time. I have yet to locate a compound large enough for the guests that I wish to invite but the divine will provide.

There will be and have been people who will object to the occasional changes that happen here as various persona come and go but it is all in the scheme of things and real forbearance and discrimination will allow for the larger tent within which we all abide. Namaste.

John said...

Once at an airport I bought a book. Well, I thought the girl was giving it to me, but when I turned to leave she made it clear that a donation was due. It was a very beautifully bound and illustrated volume. It had pictures of blue people in it. I don't know where the book is now, maybe in storage. I think you can guess who wrote it. He was already gone to the next place by the time I got the book. I have never read it. I felt that at the time it was part of some kind of scam. The taint of an institutionalized religious organization was there. Now I'm awake enough to see past the institution and religion. I know no details, but I know there must have been a jewel in the lotus despite the overriding institution. But, at the time I couldn't bring myself to see past the institutional, 'cultish' aspects.

Another time in the same period of my life I was lured into a room off M Street in Georgetown and was presented with walls a book by a so-so sci-fi writer. I thought they were joking, but I guess Dianetics caught on a bit. That's scary.

Anonymous said...

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 4.11

ye yathā māḿ prapadyante

tāḿs tathaiva bhajāmy aham

mama vartmānuvartante

manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ

TRANSLATION

As all surrender unto Me, I reward them accordingly. Everyone follows My path in all respects, O son of Pṛthā.

Anonymous said...

One of the things I like best about this site is that you are not begging for money like most other blogs. It's so offensive to go to a blog then have the author tell you that he/she is writing the material FOR YOU and the least you can do is make a donation! If that sort of request was made infrequently, that would be one thing, however, I find that certain bloggers do it on a weekly basis. It's just wrong!

Do you have a PO box where donations can be made rather than using the paypal thing?

Karen

Visible said...

Karen;

Thank you for the offer but I am afraid Paypal is the best I can do. I'm often somewhere else so you can just send me your best wishes which will surely be as good as money in the bank.

Anonymous said...

Ok. I just wanted something more anonymous--but me being anonymous would mean that your whereabouts wouldn't be and I understand that.

I hope my question about using drugs wasn't out of line. I was asking in all sincerity--I wasn't asking you to endorse me using drugs--because I wouldn't anyway--I just wanted to know if attaining the sort of experience you have is something that can be reached without using them. This is all new to me and I do not know any other way of learning except to ask.

Karen

Visible said...

Karen; no worries. I guess I'm a creature of habit when it comes to things like that. And one could scarcely be more anonymous that transacting with me because I never pay any attention beyond a thank you response.

Waterlily2012 said...

What's sad is when you don't WANT to wake up from your dreams because they are so much nicer than real life. I will try to stay asleep as long as possible. I will briefly start waking, but will fight to get back to that good dream to finish it out. Sometimes I suceed and sometimes not, but I love having those dreams and that small bit of fun and happiness while it lasts.

Rebel 4E said...

Waterlily202...& all

Sometimes on my travels I ask people about their dreams, I'm often amazed when they tell me that they rarely dream....or if they do dream, they struggle to remember.
For as long as I've been on this rock my dreams have been like a second life, full of the wildest most vivid adventures...'surreal' is an word that fails to describe the roads ofen travelled in the darkest hours.
I sometimes wake up from such dreams feeling exhausted...as one would after a long and arduous journey.
Not all of my dreams are enjoyable experiences...but I still hesitate to label tham as nightmares.
The 'real' nightmares begin when I see the latest news story concerning yet another horrific injustice being carried out in part of the 'Waking' world.

Respects, (-___-)

Word Verification - MENTR -

Visible said...

There's a new Smoking Mirrors up-



Passing through the Kingdom of the Prince of the Air.

Hank said...

I have been pondering this post since you wrote it, and the thoughts it invokes and provokes are myriad.

Dreams. Or is it; dreams? They have fascinated me since I became aware of them. They are ephemeral, and yet eternal. Some last as long, and are as real as any "waking" memory, and are as essential as the air we breath, if we are indeed breathing.

Where is the line between dream and awake? Is there a line? I still don't know if I am a human dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the human.

They seem so vague and transient, yet they are necessary, no matter what your concept of life. Even if you believe that this life is all there is, there can be no denying that if you don't dream, you die.

I know in the core of my being that there is some connection between dreams and god. Between us and the force that created us. I have envisioned many reasons for the requirement of dreaming, but in the end, I don't know. Are we simple cells of perception, much like our own nerves, that have to send our perceptions to the greater being? Are we the reflection of god, that is being examined in an effort for god to determine it's own nature, the way we try to do when we see our own reflection? Just a couple of the many musings I've had about the nature of dreams, but they are always a question. Other than they are required, and we all have them, I can't think of any other statements that can be made about them.

Do all creatures have dreams? I know my dog does. I hear the little barks and see the little feet moving and the rapid eye movement. This perhaps more than anything else, lets me know that she is not "just a dog", and that the same force that generated my life, generated hers.

Are dreams little samples of death? Is this what happens when we are freed from the confines of our bodies? When our bodies are functioning at their least our minds are functioning at their greatest. In my dreams, I can fly.

Is it all a dream? Everything I did yesterday is gone, just as surely as the dream I awoke from, and some of the dreams I will remember far longer than most of what I did yesterday. Are they both equally "real"? Are we equally "awake" for both?

Perhaps one day I will, but for now, I do not know. I don't know the nature of dreams, but I do know I love them. I relish the memory of them as much as any other memory I have, and by themselves provide sufficient reason for continuing. I think I'll take a nap now, and with a little luck, I'll see you there. Peace.

Frostwolf said...

Speaking of dreams...

I just had a dream last night where I was "as a dog" and I was receiving dog treats. I don't know exactly what it's about...

But I did feel nervous all morning on my way into woyklez. Nervous, like "about to go onstage" nervous.

Hmm.

Btw, a guide shared with me that he liked this poem I wrote, suggesting I put it in a performance I'm putting together:

Doom Sonnet #14
Unbeknownst to many, we stand in fortune's
grand moment. Yes, these happy times demand
we release toxic mayhem. Opportune
this day, should we greet Gaia hat in hand
and vow to forego addictive clasping
after empty calories, fast food sex,
concrete boxes sheltering hard grasping
after debts upon debts upon bigger debts.
Yea, verily a jubilee awaits!
But only after graceful surrender
overcomes egoist, imperiled straits,
and causes us to face and care most tender
those soft and delicate parts held dear
which we mistakenly protect in fear.

Anonymous said...

Hank

Dreaming away life is fun for sure. Not sure dreaming in the sense of the word ever really happens other than "daydreaming?" Im still learning much but have come to see dreams as the other half? Now Im not really seeing the real nature of thing awake but creating them so you might call that a dream? Im saying thats not the same as sleeping dreams but the two are linked, cant have one without the others? What comes first? Do we use the awake time to workout dream states or does dreaming need awaken ideas? I cant say? I do know what happens if you dont dream. I have had to go many days awake with little cat naps, no time for REM sleep. As time went on, I begain to dream awake? It was like being on LSD. Dreams seem to create order for the mind and the mind will get what is needs one way or the other. This is all too left brained and Im looking at the affect of dreams on the mind and not the whole?
I guess Im saying imagenetion and dreaming are two different things? Some talk about controlling dreams and others say using dreams to see the problems before you, when awake? I thing both are fine. I however would like to blend both into one "big dream." I might be a loon but I use dreams to measure how Im feeling and what mental state Im in. At some point Im hoping to be health in dreaming as in life? This maybe a "pipe dream" but I seem to think like you Hank, the God and dreaming are close together?
Now if you practice turnig off the mind and come to rest without sleeping you may just see the walls of this world move into the dream state? I have done this in walking medations so bad I have no idea where Im at when I come too? Ive ask myself how is different than daydreaming and cant say, other than the feelings and energy that move around and in me at the times of medation? This sensasion seems to be more real than the awakened world and is what Im thinking as one good reason reason to dream?
LeMat

Visible said...

There's a new culture in the Petri Dish. My apologies in advance.



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